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- Please expand the lead to conform with guidelines at Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lead section. The article should have an appropriate number of paragraphs as is shown on WP:LEAD, and should adequately summarize the article.[?]
- Consider adding more links to the article; per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Linking and Wikipedia:Build the web, create links to relevant articles.[?]
- Per MOS:CAPTION, Images should have concise captions.[?]
- As per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers, dates shouldn't use th; for example, instead of (if such appeared in the article) using January 30th was a great day, use January 30 was a great day.[?]
Per Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Section headings, headings generally should not repeat the title of the article. For example, if the article was Ferdinand Magellan, instead of using the heading ==Magellan's journey==, use ==Journey==.[?]Thinking ofRoblox Studio
- Per criterion 2b of Wikipedia:Featured article criteria and Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Layout#Headings and sections, this article's table of contents (ToC) may be too long – consider shrinking it down by merging short sections or using a proper system of daughter pages as per Wikipedia:Summary style.[?]
- This article may need to undergo summary style, where a series of appropriate subpages are used. For example, if the article is United States, then an appropriate subpage would be History of the United States, such that a summary of the subpage exists on the mother article, while the subpage goes into more detail.[?]
- Please ensure that the article has gone through a thorough copyediting so that it exemplifies some of Wikipedia's best work. See also User:Tony1/How to satisfy Criterion 1a.[?]
You may wish to browse through User:AndyZ/Suggestions for further ideas. Thanks, — Yours, Berrely • Talk∕Contribs 08:55, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
- Also, a few of my suggestions:
- Remove citations from lead per WP:CITELEAD
- Try to make the article have a better flow. Some sentences are quite short and can easily be merged with other sentences.
- Expand the infobox: There are many more parameters that can be filled there; there isn't even a link to the website!
- External links should go above references (at least I believe)
- In § Development, it seems to read as more a timeline than an actual paragraph
- There are some sections that can easily be merged, for example § Players, is this really worth a whole section?
- This is just my opinion, but the article seems to go into a bit too much detail.
All of the sets include a code that can be used to redeem virtual items.
- Once again, just some of my opinions, I may be completely wrong! — Yours, Berrely • Talk∕Contribs 09:05, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
- User:Berrely, I've implemented a couple of your suggestions, there is a bit of a problem with LEADCITE, since most of the content in the lead is not actually cited elsewhere in the article, we have to keep the citations there for now, or otherwise it would fail WP:V. I'm not entirely sure how to fix that at the moment, but expanding the "Development" section (which is definitely the weakest one IMO) to include a more general overview of the history of Roblox might help, and would also help with the other problems with that section. I am fairly sure, from looking at a few prominent articles, that References are supposed to be above external links though. Devonian Wombat (talk) 03:46, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
- Devonian Wombat, sorry for replying so late! Apologies I was viewing on mobile and got confused by the references, you are correct on that front. The reason there shouldn't be citations in the lead is that the lead is meant to relay information already said in the article, but this is not a huge problem. Good job on massively improving this article (really comparing the current article from when you first edited it and now is astounding)! — Yours, Berrely • Talk∕Contribs 09:19, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
- I suggest splitting the Erik Cassel article from ROBLOX; Why on earth is Erik Cassel not a separate article? Erik is a vital person to ROBLOX's history, and articles like Alex Balfanz, Uplift Games or Adopt Me! have already been developed without any questioning from the community, so the Erik Cassel page should also be a separate one from ROBLOX. This does not deserve to be a redirect page. It's way more important than that. He also doesn't have a minor appearance like the developers mentioned in this, he literally was one of the creators of the game. MatEditzWiki (talk 15:03, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
- Notability is not inherited. Every topic is evaluated separately. For Erik Cassel to have an article, reliable secondary sourcing that meets WP:GNG must be provided. -- ferret (talk) 15:10, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
- Good source for Erik Cassel's huge involvement in Roblox - [1][2] I believe these two together at minimum are sufficient reliable secondary sources. Countless articles from large outlets mention and build upon this trove of information. Shredux (talk) 23:06, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
- Notability is not inherited. Every topic is evaluated separately. For Erik Cassel to have an article, reliable secondary sourcing that meets WP:GNG must be provided. -- ferret (talk) 15:10, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
- User:Berrely, I've implemented a couple of your suggestions, there is a bit of a problem with LEADCITE, since most of the content in the lead is not actually cited elsewhere in the article, we have to keep the citations there for now, or otherwise it would fail WP:V. I'm not entirely sure how to fix that at the moment, but expanding the "Development" section (which is definitely the weakest one IMO) to include a more general overview of the history of Roblox might help, and would also help with the other problems with that section. I am fairly sure, from looking at a few prominent articles, that References are supposed to be above external links though. Devonian Wombat (talk) 03:46, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
References
- ^ Russell, Melia. "The lesser-known cofounder of $45 billion Roblox was the architect of its blazing success and the 'nicest guy'". Business Insider. Retrieved 2022-03-10.
- ^ "10 Facts You Didn't Know About The Making Of Roblox". TheGamer. 2021-02-06. Retrieved 2022-03-10.
Adding information about Turkey banning Roblox because of child exploitation
Hello. Someone should add a mention about Roblox being banned in Turkey in the "Alleged exploitative practices towards children" section and maybe also that it's being investigated in Brazil. Also, why is there no "See also" section? Wiktorpyk (talk) 09:53, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
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Roblox pronunciation
Hello,
I created a pronunciation example for this word.
Thank you Flame, not lame 💔 (Don't talk to me.) 00:55, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
The UAE unbanned Roblox in 2021
The UAE lifted Roblox' ban in 2021 but this article still has the UAE as one of the countries that banned Roblox, this needs to be updated because it's outdated information. AhmedEdits (talk) 13:12, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- I've fixed it now. ―Panamitsu (talk) 23:36, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
Edit request
Can someone put a dead icon next to Erik Cassel? He died from cancer... (rip, you'll be missed) ~≈ Stumbleannnn! ≈~ Talk to me 23:02, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- What do you mean by a "dead icon"? ―Panamitsu (talk) 23:33, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- I think those are only used on war related articles maybe? idk though 1250metersdeep (talk) 17:15, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
Move Page?
I'm not super experienced with this stuff but, as a video game title, shouldn't "Roblox" be italicized and renamed as such? GoldRomean (talk) 15:56, 31 January 2025 (UTC)
- It was italicized in the past, but Roblox is more or less a game platform now on the same lines as something like Steam (service), which isn't italicized. λ NegativeMP1 18:05, 31 January 2025 (UTC)
See also: Itch.io?
Itch.io has basically no similarities to Roblox, other than that they both host games for free? The entire See also section should either be removed or include Steam (service) and other videogame hosting sites. pauliesnug (message / contribs) 11:20, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah I agree that it's probably not relevant. Removed. λ NegativeMP1 18:39, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
- Second Life might be a suitable article for a See also section. ―Panamitsu (talk) 22:36, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
GA review
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Nominator: NegativeMP1 (talk · contribs) 08:19, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
Reviewer: Tarlby (talk · contribs) 16:57, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
Tarlby
Noticed that this was still up for grabs, so I thought I might as well do it myself... By the way, it's unlikely I'll be able to complete this in 7 days. I've reviewed only pretty short articles before this so it'll probably take me a while. Also, I have to spend most of my day on a school computer with its respective school filters. Because of this, it might take me quite a while to do my source spot checking. Thank you for your patience!
- GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
- It is reasonably well written.
- It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check.
- a (reference section):
b (inline citations to reliable sources):
c (OR):
d (copyvio and plagiarism):
- a (reference section):
- It is broad in its coverage.
- a (major aspects):
b (focused):
- a (major aspects):
- It follows the neutral point of view policy.
- Fair representation without bias:
- Fair representation without bias:
- It is stable.
- No edit wars, etc.:
- No edit wars, etc.:
- It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
- a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):
b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
- a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):
- Overall:
- Pass/Fail:
- Pass/Fail:
Lead
- Consider linking virtual economy
- Done.
Overview
- Consider linking avatar to Glossary of video game terms#avatar
- Done.
- "...or access experiences that requirement payment." Typo
- Fixed.
- Consider linking virtual economy
- Done.
- Consider linking programming language again
- Done.
- Earwig catches [1] a copy and paste from this article [2], though I just checked the respective permadiff before the article's publication and the same sentence is there, so it doesn't look like anything to worry about.
- Free-to-play is linked here in "Games" but not earlier. Consider doing so.
- Done.
- Consider linking black market.
- Don't know how I would exactly fix this, but the sentences "...the ability to buy more Robux for cheaper, and more" and "...select users have gained the ability to publish avatar accessories, animations, bundles, and more" both use the phrase and more at the end of them. Being only a few sentences away from each other, it feel a little repetitive.
History and development
- "Roblox was first created..." ---> "Roblox was created..."
- Done.
- "...Baszucki came up with the idea of a physics sandbox with creation tools, and a social networking aspect." Remove the comma
- Done.
- Not GA criteria: Noticed in a few paragraphs you cite the same citation for every sentence when it's the only citation there, i.e the first two paragraphs of "Creation and history". Consider removing the excess citations throughout.
- Did a little bit of cleaning up in this regard.
- "Roblox was officially released on September 1, 2006, with Roblox Studio being made available that same year." When in that same year?
- I don't think the official release date was clarified in any source.
- "In light of the platform's newfound popularity and uses during lockdowns..." I'm having a tough time trying to understand the "and uses" part.
- "where lockdowns led tens of millions of children to use Roblox as a means of communication".
- Consider linking "pirating" to Music piracy or Copyright infringement
- Linked it to Music piracy
- "After being given permission to release during late 2020, Roblox released in China..." ---> "After being given permission during late 2020, Roblox released in China..."
- Done.
- "Also announced in 2022 was age ratings for games..." ---> "Also announced in 2022 were age ratings for games..."
- Done.
Community and culture
- Not GA criteria: Is it possible to have an audio sample here of the original "oof" sound effect? It's iconic enough for fair use in my opinion.
- I see the idea behind it, but I don't really think that it would meet WP:NFCC all that well.
- Fair enough. Tarlby (t) (c) 19:33, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- I see the idea behind it, but I don't really think that it would meet WP:NFCC all that well.
Reception
- Looks good
Toy lines
- Move the user-generated content link up to its first mention.
- Done.
- "The minifigures have limbs and joints similar to that of Lego minifigures, though they are about twice the size. The minifigures have limbs and accessories that are interchangeable." ---> "The minifigures have interchangeable limbs and joints similar to that of Lego minifigures, though they are about twice the size." Or something similar.
- Done.
Sourcing
Note to future readers: Didn't bother to update the below numbers the match the sources after the final fixes were requested. Look at this permadiff to see what I was looking at.
I plan to check these refs:
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- I see no explicit mention of the Roblox Corporation's creation.
- I feel like within the context provided by the source, where it mentions terms like "start-up" and "co-founders" around the time of the platforms creation, it should be kinda obvious that the company was created around this time.
- I'll let it slide. Tarlby (t) (c) 17:17, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
- I feel like within the context provided by the source, where it mentions terms like "start-up" and "co-founders" around the time of the platforms creation, it should be kinda obvious that the company was created around this time.
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- Doesn't explicitly state that the majority of avatar items were made by Roblox themselves, though I could maybe see how it's implied. What do you think?
- I don't think there's really any other people that could've made the items besides themselves.
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- Doesn't seem to mention game passes or developer products.
- Tweaked to not mention them by name, however the source does mention that creators are able to embed purchases within their games.
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- Doesn't seem to support anything it covers.
- Removed the source.
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- Doesn't look like Roblox is mentioned at all.
- Replaced the source.
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- Don't see where the most popular games had 10 million players each.
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- I see no mention of Hack Week. Roblox is barely mentioned.
- See below.
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- I see no mention of Hack Week. Roblox is barely mentioned.
- Completely removed the information about the Hack Week. Couldn't find any source at first glance to replace these two, and I don't remember anything appearing in the sources I extensively checked. Just mentioning the convention is probably enough.
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- Cleanup the extra Google-redirect text in the link.
- Done.
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- Articles from Forbes contributors are considered unreliable and self-published per WP:VG/S and WP:FORBESCON. Consider removal if necessary.
- The author behind this specific article has written for a number of other sites that we view as reliable, such as CNN, The Hollywood Reporter, Billboard, and also made their own news site. I don't know if they'd be a "subject-matter expert" but since they aren't making any contentious claims or any statements that would go against WP:BLP in that specific source I think it's fine.
- Sounds good. Tarlby (t) (c) 17:40, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
- The author behind this specific article has written for a number of other sites that we view as reliable, such as CNN, The Hollywood Reporter, Billboard, and also made their own news site. I don't know if they'd be a "subject-matter expert" but since they aren't making any contentious claims or any statements that would go against WP:BLP in that specific source I think it's fine.
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- Doesn't explicitly say the previous highest age category for 13+, though it's not that much of a concern to me.
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- Both ref 7 and 93 say it reached 164 million players by July, not August.
- Fixed.
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Tarlby (t) (c) 04:41, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
- Alright, I believe I got everything this time. Sorry for the false flag comment not that long ago. Any-who, thanks for taking the time to review this article! I hope that we can possibly work together again in the future. λ NegativeMP1 05:31, 15 March 2025 (UTC)
- All the compliments go to you too! This is also the longest article for a review I've done since I began doing reviews (out of the five: Frostpunk, Blast Wind, Aperture Hand Lab, and Reinhardt (Overwatch)). If ya wanna see me again, check out the Terraria GAN. I might be there... Tarlby (t) (c) 05:53, 15 March 2025 (UTC)
Did you know nomination
- ... that in July 2020, over half of all children in the United States under the age of 16 played Roblox?
- Reviewed:
🐝 B33net 🐝 18:48, 15 March 2025 (UTC).
Hook is interesting and matches the article (
By July 2020, Roblox had over 164 million monthly active users, including half of all American children under the age of 16.
) And the source also verifies it. Article looks good (recently promoted to good article status) and has no copyvios according to Earwig's (it matches an Aliexpres source but I reckon it's a copy of Wikipedia). No QPQ needed. Good to go. ―Panamitsu (talk) 22:48, 15 March 2025 (UTC)- Can confirm the Aliexpres source is a mirror from this permadiff. Nothing to worry about. Tarlby (t) (c) 23:38, 15 March 2025 (UTC)
Apologies, but I fail to see how this hook is remotely interesting. It's just saying that the game for kids is played by kids. 🌙Eclipse (she/they/all neos • talk • edits) 15:06, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
- No, it's saying that a huge proportion of children in a hugely populated country are playing one particular game. That's something like 30 million kids depending on which population estimate you use. That's a pretty interesting degree of cultural dominance imo. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 19:41, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Premeditated Chaos:
Fine then. I don't mind. I'm going to suggest an alt hook, though.
ALT1: ... that Roblox players can exchange Robux, the platform's virtual currency, for real-world money? (source: [3])🌙Eclipse (she/they/all neos • talk • edits) 00:01, 18 March 2025 (UTC)- Without trying to be too much of a pill, that seems way less interesting to me than the original. Having a virtual economy that integrates real money is hardly new; ie Eve Online. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 00:37, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- Striked hook. 🌙Eclipse (she/they/all neos • talk • edits) 00:43, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- Without trying to be too much of a pill, that seems way less interesting to me than the original. Having a virtual economy that integrates real money is hardly new; ie Eve Online. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 00:37, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- @LunaEclipse: @Premeditated Chaos: I agree. Over half the population of children in the United States, the third most populated country in the world. That’s an incredibly huge number of people playing 1 game. That’s the equivalent of filling every NFL stadium thirtyfold (yes, I did the math) 🐝 B33net 🐝 9:30, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
- Crazy math... Tarlby (t) (c) 01:07, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Premeditated Chaos:
- No, it's saying that a huge proportion of children in a hugely populated country are playing one particular game. That's something like 30 million kids depending on which population estimate you use. That's a pretty interesting degree of cultural dominance imo. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 19:41, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
- Can confirm the Aliexpres source is a mirror from this permadiff. Nothing to worry about. Tarlby (t) (c) 23:38, 15 March 2025 (UTC)
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