| i dont really care for mgs but think of this >own silent hill ip >dont even try to make a decent entry to the franchise in a decade aside from downpour and homecoming >completely botch the hd collection >tease people with silent hills' >cancel silent hills because you are such a terrible company kekonami.jpg |
 Oh maybe, maybe it's the clothes we wear The tasteless bracelets and the dye in our hair Or maybe, maybe it's our nowhere towns or our nothing places But we're trash, you and me We're the litter on the breeze We're the lovers on the streets Just trash, me and you It's in everything we do It's in everything we do |
There is an alternate universe where Metal Gear Solid 3 was remastered without pachinko machines in mind. There is an alternate universe where the Phantom Pain was completed. There is an alternate universe with Silent Hills. |
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95PercentCaim said: There is an alternate universe where Metal Gear Solid 3 was remastered without pachinko machines in mind. There is an alternate universe where the Phantom Pain was completed. There is an alternate universe with Silent Hills. MGS3 is perfect as it is, not sure why people want a remake of it. HD remaster alone was good to have, and there's the 3DS port that tweaks the gameplay a bit. I'm just looking at this whole pachinko shit as pure fanservice and seeing some scenes redone. |
 "Your sight, my delight. Will you marry me?" |
| Remaking MGS3 would be pointless. The game's fine. MGSV is one of the most expensive games ever made and Kojima still fucked it up. Konami could have given him another 80 million dollars and he still would have come back asking for more. And no amount of money could have saved it from being the disappointment that it was. So much of what made MGS enjoyable is gone. |
EzekielAug 10, 2016 11:25 PM
ZetaZaku said: Well it could have been more perfect if it was remade. You can't deny that a Metal Gear Solid 3 remake with those kind of graphics would be an amazing experience. I'd also hardly consider this fanservice given the context of the PachinkoSolid.95PercentCaim said: There is an alternate universe where Metal Gear Solid 3 was remastered without pachinko machines in mind. There is an alternate universe where the Phantom Pain was completed. There is an alternate universe with Silent Hills. MGS3 is perfect as it is, not sure why people want a remake of it. HD remaster alone was good to have, and there's the 3DS port that tweaks the gameplay a bit. I'm just looking at this whole pachinko shit as pure fanservice and seeing some scenes redone. |
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95PercentCaim said: ZetaZaku said: Well it could have been more perfect if it was remade. You can't deny that a Metal Gear Solid 3 remake with those kind of graphics would be an amazing experience. I'd also hardly consider this fanservice given the context of the PachinkoSolid.MGS3 is perfect as it is, not sure why people want a remake of it. HD remaster alone was good to have, and there's the 3DS port that tweaks the gameplay a bit. I'm just looking at this whole pachinko shit as pure fanservice and seeing some scenes redone. Are you 12? Not everything is about graphics. Look at Twin Snakes, upgraded graphics and gameplay, but the game is complete shit compared to the original. And grow up, pachinko exists for 100 years, not sure why everyone is butthurt now after a whole century. |
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DateYutaka said: What does Blizzard and Overwatch have to do with this?bash konami no not bilzard for there loot system in overwatch Zehik said: One good deed does not excuse one bad deed.Konami gets way too much hate. Without Konami, some of those projects you listed wouldn't even exist to begin with. Seriously fuck off with the hate. |
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ZetaZaku said: Are you retarded? What's wrong with wanting a game to look better? And Twin Snakes is a completely different circumstance.95PercentCaim said: Well it could have been more perfect if it was remade. You can't deny that a Metal Gear Solid 3 remake with those kind of graphics would be an amazing experience. I'd also hardly consider this fanservice given the context of the PachinkoSolid. Are you 12? Not everything is about graphics. Look at Twin Snakes, upgraded graphics and gameplay, but the game is complete shit compared to the original. And grow up, pachinko exists for 100 years, not sure why everyone is butthurt now after a whole century. |
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95PercentCaim said: ZetaZaku said: Are you retarded? What's wrong with wanting a game to look better? And Twin Snakes is a completely different circumstance.Are you 12? Not everything is about graphics. Look at Twin Snakes, upgraded graphics and gameplay, but the game is complete shit compared to the original. And grow up, pachinko exists for 100 years, not sure why everyone is butthurt now after a whole century. It's pointless and completely misses the point of a remake. Would rather see an expanded take on MG1+2 than a fancier MGS3. |
"Your sight, my delight. Will you marry me?" |
| Everything is not about graphics, but graphics are in everything. Also Twin Snakes was glorious. Only a few changes from the source were negatives: Mei Ling's new voice, matrix moves that weren't from Gray Fox. That was about it. In general it's flat out superior to the original. |
Thrashinuva said: It's the same voice. The actress just dropped the fake Chinese accent because the character's been living in the US most of her life.Mei Ling's new voice |
Ezekiel said: Thrashinuva said: It's the same voice. The actress just dropped the fake Chinese accent because the character's been living in the US most of her life.Mei Ling's new voice Well her new non-fake accent sucks. |
Thrashinuva said: I suspect it's a matter of what you know first. Twin Snakes was my first MGS game and I found the accent in the original forced. But I only played the original once like seven years ago. Ezekiel said: It's the same voice. The actress just dropped the fake Chinese accent because the character's been living in the US most of her life. Well her new non-fake accent sucks. |
| Because we are no longer in the golden age of video games. That is why. Nintendo is a cunt, Capcom's games are a shadow of their former glory, Konami is addicted to Pachinko, Square/Enix is busy beating cows while Sega is milking dead franchises. I could go on. |
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Syrup- said: Because we are no longer in the golden age of video games. That is why. Nintendo is a cunt, Capcom's games are a shadow of their former glory, Konami is addicted to Pachinko, Square/Enix is busy beating cows while Sega is milking dead franchises. I could go on. The sad truth right there. The gaming industry is dying, and no one outside of a few niche audiences seem to care/notice. |
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Syrup- said: Because we are no longer in the golden age of video games. That is why. Nintendo is a cunt, Capcom's games are a shadow of their former glory, Konami is addicted to Pachinko, Square/Enix is busy beating cows while Sega is milking dead franchises. I could go on. Ah you missed ubisoft |
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OneTrueEmiya said: I wouldn't say it's dying per se. It's just like watching your favourite athletes become old and obsolete. The producers and directors of brilliant games like DDR or Final Fantasy are now old men drinking through straws. Syrup- said: Because we are no longer in the golden age of video games. That is why. Nintendo is a cunt, Capcom's games are a shadow of their former glory, Konami is addicted to Pachinko, Square/Enix is busy beating cows while Sega is milking dead franchises. I could go on. The sad truth right there. The gaming industry is dying, and no one outside of a few niche audiences seem to care/notice. It's not even mostly their fault anyway. It's consumers, I would place the blame on. For some reason consumers don't value their money nearly as much as they should. That doesn't mean "hey I worked the equivalent of 4 hours for this, I know how much this means to me." It's more like "do I really want to help this company grow by giving them money for this game?" Businesses have to do what makes them the most money, from a survival standpoint anyway. The anime industry is pretty solid proof of this concept. DragonSlayer_19 said: Syrup- said: Because we are no longer in the golden age of video games. That is why. Nintendo is a cunt, Capcom's games are a shadow of their former glory, Konami is addicted to Pachinko, Square/Enix is busy beating cows while Sega is milking dead franchises. I could go on. Ah you missed ubisoft Blizzard, Activision, Chunsoft, NIS, blah blah blah, I could list literally any of the companies who were legends in the NES/SNES/PSX generations. They would all have stooped low or are bankrupt by now. |
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| There's some heavy victim complex going on in this thread. Evil game companies bullying poor gamers, yeah right. Making a pachinko game (btw MGS is not the only thing that has one with upgraded visuals) and trying to use that as some kind of leverage is just too farfetched and stinks of entitlement or just plain ignorance. It's not like there actually was something and it was taken away from you, in which case I could sympathize. |
| kek "I hate what this company is doing!" is now a victim complex okay. Not even worth quoting you. |
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| But I mean the only developers that know what they're doing are respectable are indie devs these days. When does it stop? Final Fantasy is still developed by Square, but the people within the company are different. It results in a different Final Fantasy. That's the world we live in. Does that necessarily have to mean that Square is doing it wrong? That they need to change? I think there are two types of people who think that gaming is dying. The first is affected largely by nostalgia, while the other is merely more cemented in their beliefs. Sure I live in the same world as most people that thinks FF7, 8, and 9, are great and nothing following those titles resembles them at all. However that doesn't have to mean that the games next in line were bad, they're just different. |
| There's not even a year since the hit game "MGS V: The Phantom Pain" was released and people act like this. It is really the fault of people and gaming journalism which tries to bake a scandal out of everything. And oh do people bite. The companies should just not give out info at all or tell them to "eat shit" like that Tekken dev. Things change, people come and go, nothing is forever and you'll be playing another game at the end of the day. In this case, there isn't even a game. Simply not getting great things is not a valid reason to get upset. |
| MGSV was shit and I don't give a damn about your complacency towards the market. If you want to shovel shit into your mouth, that's fine. |
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| Because the [people who run Konami's gaming division are corporate tyrants who just want easy money and just don't care about gamers. They only see idiots, gullible retirees, and the vulnerable as better sources of revenue. |
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OneTrueEmiya said: Syrup- said: Because we are no longer in the golden age of video games. That is why. Nintendo is a cunt, Capcom's games are a shadow of their former glory, Konami is addicted to Pachinko, Square/Enix is busy beating cows while Sega is milking dead franchises. I could go on. The sad truth right there. The gaming industry is dying, and no one outside of a few niche audiences seem to care/notice. That's mostly because both the people in charge and the target audience of their games has changed as games got more and more popular, so they were mostly casualized and catered to a lower common denominator for the sake of more money. That and DLC/Season pass (which means companies can and will throw half-finished products at full price) was too much. |
| I wish they do continue silent hill games, but you can't say the hd collection was botched. I've heard the complaints about the hd collection and it's that there's no fog graphics and the new voices. The fog looks fine and it's impossible to see through and they have the old voices last time I played it. |
Trance said: I'm a guy and I can imagine buttfucking another guy. I don't find the thought repulsive, and I can even imagine kissing another man. |
Masked_Mantis said: The HD collection was botched. I get you spent money on it and want to justify your purchase but it is absolute gutter-tier trashI wish they do continue silent hill games, but you can't say the hd collection was botched. I've heard the complaints about the hd collection and it's that there's no fog graphics and the new voices. The fog looks fine and it's impossible to see through and they have the old voices last time I played it. First off, it's not just the fog. And you can't play with old voices in Silent Hill 3. There's so many things wrong with the HD collection that typing it down takes a half day's worth of time. |
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95PercentCaim said: I'm not trying to justify it, I found no issue with it at all. For example it isn't the fog at all because there's nothing wrong with the fog, that's just people moaning. I've seen a decent review that covered that myself too.Masked_Mantis said: The HD collection was botched. I get you spent money on it and want to justify your purchase but it is absolute gutter-tier trashI wish they do continue silent hill games, but you can't say the hd collection was botched. I've heard the complaints about the hd collection and it's that there's no fog graphics and the new voices. The fog looks fine and it's impossible to see through and they have the old voices last time I played it. First off, it's not just the fog. And you can't play with old voices in Silent Hill 3. There's so many things wrong with the HD collection that typing it down takes a half day's worth of time. [yt]wya4XhTPMcc[/t] Silent hill 3 I've never played however. |
Trance said: I'm a guy and I can imagine buttfucking another guy. I don't find the thought repulsive, and I can even imagine kissing another man. |
ZetaZaku said: How about you explain the point of a video game remake?95PercentCaim said: Are you retarded? What's wrong with wanting a game to look better? And Twin Snakes is a completely different circumstance. It's pointless and completely misses the point of a remake. Would rather see an expanded take on MG1+2 than a fancier MGS3. You're so fucking jaded dude, but not even to a reasonable point of jadedness. mecharobot said: lolThere's some heavy victim complex going on in this thread. Evil game companies bullying poor gamers, yeah right. Making a pachinko game (btw MGS is not the only thing that has one with upgraded visuals) and trying to use that as some kind of leverage is just too farfetched and stinks of entitlement or just plain ignorance. It's not like there actually was something and it was taken away from you, in which case I could sympathize. t.Corporate dicksucker They make entertainment products. Consumers familiar with the entertainmant franchises have every right to criticize since they are part of the franchise's target audience. |
PeenusWeenusCaimAug 11, 2016 12:18 PM
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95PercentCaim said: ZetaZaku said: How about you explain the point of a video game remake?It's pointless and completely misses the point of a remake. Would rather see an expanded take on MG1+2 than a fancier MGS3. You're so fucking jaded dude, but not even to a reasonable point of jadedness. What is the fucking point of remaking a perfectly playable PS2 (with a PS3 HD port) game that already has good gameplay and visuals? There's no point remaking games that work great and are good as they are. |
"Your sight, my delight. Will you marry me?" |
ZetaZaku said: Why settle for less instead of more? What's wrong with wanting more gameplay features and updated graphics?95PercentCaim said: How about you explain the point of a video game remake? You're so fucking jaded dude, but not even to a reasonable point of jadedness. What is the fucking point of remaking a perfectly playable PS2 (with a PS3 HD port) game that already has good gameplay and visuals? There's no point remaking games that work great and are good as they are. Have you forgotten that Metal Gear Solid 3 was designed to push gaming technology to its limits? So why should we limit the idea of a game progressing even further? Have you forgotten that gaming is also about technology and technology is about progress? |
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| Remaking MGS3, a perfectly fine game, would be a waste of time that could be better spent making something new. It's not even old. You'd inevitably lose more from the original with such a remake than gain. |
Ezekiel said: There is no such thing as perfect.Remaking MGS3, a perfectly fine game, would be a waste of time that could be better spent making something new. It's not even old. You'd inevitably lose more from the original with such a remake than gain. Part of art and technology is striving to progress and improve. That's what the wonderful medium of gaming is all about. Saying game's like Metal Gear Solid 3 is just as fine as it is and then complaining about how nothing this year or the next has caught your interest indicates everything wrong with you guys. Syrup- said: People are just hardly experimenting with the medium now.OneTrueEmiya said: I wouldn't say it's dying per se. It's just like watching your favourite athletes become old and obsolete. The producers and directors of brilliant games like DDR or Final Fantasy are now old men drinking through straws. The sad truth right there. The gaming industry is dying, and no one outside of a few niche audiences seem to care/notice. It's not even mostly their fault anyway. It's consumers, I would place the blame on. For some reason consumers don't value their money nearly as much as they should. That doesn't mean "hey I worked the equivalent of 4 hours for this, I know how much this means to me." It's more like "do I really want to help this company grow by giving them money for this game?" Businesses have to do what makes them the most money, from a survival standpoint anyway. The anime industry is pretty solid proof of this concept. Some shit is up when you have a walking simulator like Gone Home considered" innovative" and Bioshock Infinite called the "Citizen Kane" of gaming. |
PeenusWeenusCaimAug 11, 2016 1:12 PM
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95PercentCaim said: I didn't say "perfect", I said "perfectly fine", an oxymoron which you could interpret as "quite fine" or "good enough". I'd rather play a new MGS. One that isn't another fucking prequel. That's the best way to move forward for the series. Remaking games left and right doesn't strike me as striving to progress and improve. It shows a lack of creativity. Ezekiel said: There is no such thing as perfect.Remaking MGS3, a perfectly fine game, would be a waste of time that could be better spent making something new. It's not even old. You'd inevitably lose more from the original with such a remake than gain. Part of art and technology is striving to progress and improve. That's what the wonderful medium of gaming is all about. Saying game's like Metal Gear Solid 3 is just as fine as it is and then complaining about how nothing this year or the next has caught your interest is everything wrong with you guys. |
EzekielAug 11, 2016 2:48 PM
Zehik said: Konami gets way too much hate. Without Konami, some of those projects you listed wouldn't even exist to begin with. Seriously fuck off with the hate. lol found the konami shill how much are they paying you to shill their shitty pachinko machines m80? |
YomiyukiAug 11, 2016 4:58 PM
Oh maybe, maybe it's the clothes we wear The tasteless bracelets and the dye in our hair Or maybe, maybe it's our nowhere towns or our nothing places But we're trash, you and me We're the litter on the breeze We're the lovers on the streets Just trash, me and you It's in everything we do It's in everything we do |
mecharobot said: There's some heavy victim complex going on in this thread. Evil game companies bullying poor gamers, yeah right. Making a pachinko game (btw MGS is not the only thing that has one with upgraded visuals) and trying to use that as some kind of leverage is just too farfetched and stinks of entitlement or just plain ignorance. It's not like there actually was something and it was taken away from you, in which case I could sympathize. idk what you're even saying tbh... how do you even get that from what i posted.. "victim complex" no, konami's just a god awful company that ruined one of the few great horror franchises. so yeah, i think they kinda did take something away from the industry. |
Oh maybe, maybe it's the clothes we wear The tasteless bracelets and the dye in our hair Or maybe, maybe it's our nowhere towns or our nothing places But we're trash, you and me We're the litter on the breeze We're the lovers on the streets Just trash, me and you It's in everything we do It's in everything we do |
| The camo/food system and controls could definitely be fixed, though. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
Ezekiel said: Part of the creative process is editing and changing a work so it can more closely resemble or improve an artist's vision. If you are jaded to the point of believing such a thing signifies a lack of creativity, we have nothing to discuss here then.95PercentCaim said: I didn't say "perfect", I said "perfectly fine", an oxymoron which you could interpret as "quite fine" or "good enough". I'd rather play a new MGS. One that isn't another fucking prequel. That's the best way to move forward for the series. Remaking games left and right doesn't strike me as striving to progress and improve. It shows a lack of creativity. There is no such thing as perfect. Part of art and technology is striving to progress and improve. That's what the wonderful medium of gaming is all about. Saying game's like Metal Gear Solid 3 is just as fine as it is and then complaining about how nothing this year or the next has caught your interest is everything wrong with you guys. |
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95PercentCaim said: What do you know about Kojima Productions' vision? What makes you think they even want to retread old works? They're not even with Konami anymore, so why do you believe THEY know Koji Pro's vision and could make a better MGS3 than them?Ezekiel said: Part of the creative process is editing and changing a work so it can more closely resemble or improve an artist's vision. If you are jaded to the point of believing such a thing signifies a lack of creativity, we have nothing to discuss here then.I didn't say "perfect", I said "perfectly fine", an oxymoron which you could interpret as "quite fine" or "good enough". I'd rather play a new MGS. One that isn't another fucking prequel. That's the best way to move forward for the series. Remaking games left and right doesn't strike me as striving to progress and improve. It shows a lack of creativity. |
| Not to mention they closed most of the good online YGO games without having a good alternative. They probably won't ever make a good YGO game people will actually play. |
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